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Zio 10-10 and hell difficulty in the main story [47]

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  • 2022.11.10 22:33 (UTC+0)
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My question is simple: is this fight supposed to be fun, SmileGate?

When you noticed that A LOT of people straight up completely skip Abyss (or play it once for the rewards and never again), did you think it was a good idea to insert the same kind of cheap mechanics in the main story?


Go on, ask to some of your employees to play this fight. Then, whether they won or not, ask them this: "Did you have fun?"


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    2022.11.10 23:47 (UTC+0)

    I mean is auto battle fun? Cause isn’t the requirement to use a few brain cells at least engaging lol just do it 

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    2022.11.11 00:37 (UTC+0)

    soul burn before 4, hit the mob behind zio for souls, I used rem violet mercedes tamarinne It took me a few hours to get it right, it was hell 


    It was worse than belian!


    We only have to beat it once.


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    2022.11.11 03:31 (UTC+0)

    The fight is cheap. If there were trash mob packs before the boss it wouldn't be so bad. Needing to ** or die without being able to build souls before is just cheap.  The souls gained through hitting the back enemy is not enough to prevent everyone from dying.  There is no slow playing it.  You can bring multiple Books and use Unseen Observer at the cost of needing to use Mages and a Ranger with a non-attack skill. 


    I killed him by just burning him down as fast as possible with Iseria, Alots, Cermia and Emilia.  I seen a video with someone using Sigret as their main damage dealer, and she melted the boss.  The fight is setup needing to kill the boss insanely fast or wipe.


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    2022.11.11 03:45 (UTC+0)

    I'm having fun because its challenging. If you're complaining like this, youre just bad at the game. Just get better 🙂

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    2022.11.11 07:20 (UTC+0)

    ich fand ihn auch super. Man muss halt wie immer nur wissen was man zu beachten hat 


    Hier mein Boss guide für zion ohne Heiler, vielleicht hilft es dir ja



    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=99QTeC-AQXQ&lc=UgyOY6QCsWDLy0Fl3RN4AaABAg



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    2022.11.11 07:39 (UTC+0)

    The problem is player expectation. If you make players can 90% auto battle the story lvl of course many will complain when there is suddenly a steep wall. we don't see that much complain on  abyss or labyrinth because the player already expect it to be end game content with high ceiling.



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    2022.11.11 09:47 (UTC+0)

    Just found a video and it looks easy enough...if you have specific heroes


    I was also thinking of abusing dual attacks when I reach the boss some day(when I finally decide to play the story)

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    2022.11.11 12:02 (UTC+0)

    Most pve boss encounters are either a strategy check where the “good gear” requirement is low to moderate and you must do something in particular win or it’s a gear check and the gear requirement is high for either your tanks and supports (big hits from boss) or dps (deal lots of damage fast). Obviously sometimes encounters are sometimes over tuned but this isn’t one of them.


    —How to beat it—


    This encounter is an AoE DPS check. I beat the encounter for three stars using: Aria, SSB, REM, Fire Mercedes. You want to pop the trash mobs with aoe while dealing enough damage fast enough to get him to 40% without wiping your team (so that he clears the cylinder looking mob and starts the next phase). Regardless of whether you go all dps or support plus dps, this encounter is a straight up dps check and if you are having trouble getting him down with a dps forward comp you need better gear on your damage dealers. 


    This fight is fine.

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    2022.11.11 13:46 (UTC+0)

    First time fighting it is Quite hard, yes, but you can beat with different kind of teams. 

    However, It is not as hard as people think so, since yes, it is kinda feel like abyss. 

    There are certain similiar mechanic of those mob and zio itself is quite punishing. 

    But now lots of videos showing how to beat him even using ai kizuna makes me think anyone can clear it if they try to clear it. 



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    2022.11.11 14:21 (UTC+0)

    "I can't beat this so it needs a nerf"

    Or you could just stop whining and grow a pair. The fight is not even that hard. Read the skills and use your brain. You don't need specific heroes for it. You need a specific strategy and that strategy only has one thing on the list of things to do, not 10. So you're complaining about solving 2+2, not algebra.

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    2022.11.11 15:17 (UTC+0)

    Before there were no heroes, now there are many heroes, how can you compare them like that

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    2022.11.11 15:17 (UTC+0)

    No way

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    2022.11.11 17:04 (UTC+0)

    No way a boy just expecting it to be a walk in the park...Where's the challenge in that...

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    2022.11.12 04:05 (UTC+0)

    Such a toxic community. "gitgud" is most of the "advice" from people. Mods don't do anything to stop this behaviour, either.


    This game is going to die out if the community keeps going like this.

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    2022.11.12 04:45 (UTC+0)

    A. Ras – Aurius - Mitigation

    Tenebria – Etica’s S. – Defense Break (If you can defense break all of minions at one go, that’s good)

    Tamarinne – W. P. V – Heal

    Charlotte – Hilag L. – Wiping out minions before they reach 4 ASAP.


    C. Armin – Helper – Replace A. Ras if he dies in Phase Two.

     

    Phase One.

    1. Soul Burn at or before any character reaches 4 numeric buffs           .

    2. Kill minions before they reach 4 numeric buffs.

    3. plan a. Any attack skill must be directed at the Lantern to stack souls.

    3. plan b. Except if Charlotte seems to be failed do her job, forget about soul and attack minions.

    Nb. Soul is important, but what more important is when there is no number 4 avaiable (both in character or minions) when the boss meet his turn.

     

    Phase Two.

    Suppose to be easier without lantern or minions, but numeric buff still applied in character.

    Nb. Don't expect success in just a few tries.
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    2022.11.12 09:40 (UTC+0)

    How is this fight EVEN WORSE after the first complete. I ran my first complete team without a fire unit and now I can't get it done with one, for the final star. The damage output and counter mechanice of that second wave is insane and definitely overpowered

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