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Lionheart Cermia, is she terrible at PVE? [56]

I got her and I like how she performs, now I'm thinking of making her one of my mains. But according to reviews she's not good at PVE, how "not good" she is? Like terrible? Unusable? I plan to put her on my supporters for friends to choose as help, but first I wonder how she performs in pve when fully build. Maybe there are Bosses that counters, dual attack and extra attack and and she becomes effective?

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    2022.06.11 08:52 (UTC+0)

    rank 62, enough said.

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    2022.06.11 09:01 (UTC+0)

    I can say I’ve never once used her in PvE. Not sure about abyss floors. But she‘s really mainly for PvP, and only against certain comps too (counter, dual attack opponents). Aim for 2k defense, 100% crit chance, 12k hp. Your speed is good. Change your artifact, use sigurds. It’s available in powder shop now.

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    2022.06.11 10:07 (UTC+0)



    this is the stat line my opinion is based on, i believe she is perfectly fine as an additional helper in pve if the other person just needs a little push to beat a stage however if he needs your unit to do most of the work she will fail horribly.

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    2022.06.11 11:44 (UTC+0)

    Who cares about pve, you can just use anyone even 3 star at pve.

    Terrible is really an understatement for any arena heroes. You can say all ml5 are bad for pve then except like arby 


    Either way any damage dealer are useful in pve. Like by no means terrible.. Compare to most 3 or 4 star


    Also a warrior unit that have high def, pen def skill, surely even until last episode she can work 



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    2022.06.11 12:10 (UTC+0)

    OMG what the fu(ck) is that build????

    1k def Lermia???? My eyes.... It hurts.


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    2022.06.11 14:27 (UTC+0)

    Shes better off on lifesteal with that speed and her defense is waaaay to low you need atleast 2k defense b/c her damage scales on Def I would focus on other characters that actually benefit in PVE. 

    The only time I used ML Cermia in PVE was against Aria boss in the new chapter story since she had the counter buff.

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    2022.06.11 15:00 (UTC+0)

    I'm no expert but many ML5 heroes are not great options for pve because they are designed for pvp. As for your case I can see some problems with your Cermia


    - Aim to get her a life leech set with good defense, decent speed and cdmg. Speed and crit sets are fine for now.

    - Your Cermia's crit chance should be 90+, ideally 100. Anything less than 90 you'll start to feel like you're missing a TON of critical hits.

    - Your defense is too low, same with HP. Her dmg scales strongly with defense, so you'll definitely need more.

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    2022.06.11 15:33 (UTC+0)

    I use mine for PvE all the time but I wouldn't recommend it. Unless you're dealing with several counters/dual attacks, you're not going to get her full potential. Of course, you can experiment around her build like using lifestyle or counter set but it still wouldn't help the fact that she's only useful in certain situations

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    2022.06.11 15:50 (UTC+0)

    I think she's better suited for PvP. Ideally she probably can dish out decent amount of aoe dmg if the PvE monsters do a lot of counter/extra attacks, but even so her dmg output isn't amazing in comparison to units that are more PvE focused.


    With that said, it's possible. The goal is to get something like 2k+ Def with your current CR CD. 190-200spd if you go Life Steal, 220+ spd if you go Speed set

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    2022.06.11 18:58 (UTC+0)

    She works well in light hunt, could also be good for golem, but you're better off using fire units there.
    In raid you can probably use her against queen and the bees boss (the one that spams poisons).
    It's hard to say for abyss, but surely there are some floors where she can be good.

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    2022.06.12 00:56 (UTC+0)

    Her damage is based on Def. You need to pump up def, crit rate, and crit damage. Ideally you want 100% crit rate, 250+ crit damage, and at least 2K+ def. What set you put on her is up to you, people tend to go speed set with def stats for a faster rotation. She is mainly PvP. For PvE there are way better options like Arb. Vild.

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    2022.06.13 13:53 (UTC+0)

    U need more def, crit rate, crit dmg and spd

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