About Balance Survey Review [15]
I just wanted to talk a little bit about the survey results and how hypocrite the community can be.
1. The second most voted ML5* to get a buff is DJB. But Maverik is a powercreep version of DJB and the most wanted ML5* to get a rerun. Interesting. DJB at this point needs a Rework only because Maverik exist.
2. The most voted ML5* to get a buff is SBA. A DEBUFFER even though a lot of people hate and complains a lot about how broken debuffers are AND THEN Maverik is chosen as the most wanted rerun. The biggest counter to debuffers and the only hero that can make them USELESS. Very interesting.
3. 8/9 of the most wanted ML5* reruns are high HP/Def units. No wonder why everyone complains about how "broken" and "op" Hwayoung is.
4. Diene was voted to get a buff but is the second most wanted RGB rerun.
5. No artifacts were voted to get a buff when second and third place are considered useless artifacts since their release.
6. Someone pointed it out in the official post. A lot of people is asking for changes but the amount of "None" in the votes are really high.
No RGB reruns. No artifact Buffs. None 3* buffs. No 4* buffs. 6 place for no 5* buffs. No 3* ML buffs. 5 place for no 4* ML buffs.
In conclusion.
SG gave you the chance to speak and a lot of people didn't even took it seriously. Well done community. Now you can keep complaining.
PD: I think this survey was made BEFORE Hwayoung was released. This might kill the point 3 but it only shows how necessary an anti-bruiser unit was.
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If something can be read out of the survey, it is 2 major things. 1st: The term balance adjustment had been used in developer patchnotices for the last 3 years for buffs exclusively. If one (especialy SG) thinks people would vote for a broken ML5 to be changed when confronted with this expression, the basic communication skills suck. 2nd: Because broken ML5 and limited RGB are such a huge problem to the balance of the game, most people clicked through the survey with "nothing" to eventually find no option to choose among questions like "which heroe is too strong?", "what changes would even out the balance of the game?". One did not find the questions asked, that the community wanted to answer SG by complaining and the survey did not give the answers SG needs to adress the actual problem. If the survey would have been taken seriously in the context of the complains-drama ot would have referred to any of the complains with adressing questions.
1.- Yes his kit is bad designed
2.- SBA is rarely used
3.- A bruiser is more easy to build that speed heros and the kit of Hwayoung is strong she can oneshot almost any hero (without mitigation) and is even easier to build
4.- I dont see a problem here
5.- A lot of people dont know all artifats i know was a waste, but a least the iron fan was are mentioned
6.- Most of the players dont play RTA a just play pve
Yeah, as mentioned earlier, people want "balance" but most wanted 4* ml return its aola, I can understand it, but still dissapointing.
none= the problem is more than 3 lines
Frankly rta and 4* heroes etc are in such a bad shape I voted none cause how to pick one?
3. What are you on about? You think SBA, Gaither, Gloomyrain, Haste, Dingo, and Godmother are tank bruisers? There are at most 3 tanks in each category and they are mostly at the bottom 5.
You mentioned, " I think this survey was made BEFORE Hwayoung was released. This might kill the point 3 but it only shows how necessary an anti-bruiser unit was." No this shows the exact opposite. They released an ANTI-TANK unit when the survey that was made before her release determined that DPS-TANK UNITS need a buff. But this is wrong, as Hwayoung was released the same day of the survey.
We also have to keep in mind that units like Hwayoung that counter specific meta units like A.Ravi, Rimuru, and Violet also indirectly nerfs every hero within a similar niche. They need to balance opposing roles properly: Debuffs vs Cleanse, Damage vs Vitality etc. without piling up a bunch powercreep. Ex) Maid -> AoL -> M. Kawerik
Balance Feedback where most 4☆ ML needed is AoL lol .
Devs said already that they'll not take the Survey seriously ( Interview) because the possiblity of Abused answers .
dude, survey is just for "showing". I bet there will be minimum buff re-work after this survey. And buff doesn't lead to fixing a problems on PVP.
Making a new OP heros is more easy and profit making work.
Believe me, they don't care a sxxt
Um, DJB has always been a bad unit. His buff changed nothing and his rating went south beofre Maverik was buffed.He was always worse than Maid and yet he got a far less impactful buff than her.
You're kidding about Hwayoung, right? She can easily match the dmg of Schuri and Dorvus while having lesser CD than both of them plus full cleanse and Immunity. That's on top of being easy to build and a bruiser with high survivability. She makes ML Khawazu look like a joke too.
You're right about other things.
1. Even though they are similar DJB is there not only to help you cleanse but also give you a way to come back into the game. He can fullfill an entirely different role if his buffs are thought out.
2. The way she is now, she will never see play. Why even? Just use Aola who not only cripples your team singlehandedly but also gives AoE protection and cleanse. SBA needs the stars to align to work. But wait! There is 15% waiting around the corner too. We have so many possibilites now to deal with debuffs than back then.
3. You can't blame people to be part of the meta. Back then you could play with off meta heroes but now missing key units might mean for you to fall back immensely. There is no way SG is going to nerf 14 heroes, so obv. people knowing this want the meta heroes. I see absolutely 0 hypocrisy here.
4. Sure, waifu.
5. I had to look into all artifacts to pick the ones i feel need a buff. Pretty sure most just skipped the question bcs there is so many of them to consider.
6. I don't care about 3 star heroes unless they have SC available. They are weak and mostly only a filler option in early game. 4 star RGB heroes do to little for the Mola they want, i don't blame anybody who doesn't care about the either. RGB 4 stars are in a weird place. Imo SG needs to look into them more than selected buffs.
Many people do not care about the state of the game, the loudest voices are only the ones who do actually care and yes, we are the minority. Most people just want to do their PvE and some PvP/GW. Hence why they PROBABLY didn't care as much as i do or maybe you do.
Dude who wants to use 3* and 4* when their base stats are worse which in turn makes them hard to build
I`d love to use em too. Some of the newer ones have really fun kit.
Have built Helen and Muwi to use in W13, just because I got bored of my old team.
Heck cute lil Helen is pretty good PVE tank for being just a 3* :3
What do you think a buff is
It's just 6% or 3% different that why kits is matter like Cristy or Cidd that people still using.
1. Djb is currently the weakest and least useful ml5*, not only because of ml kawerik. imo he deserve the buff.
2. Imo the problem is not the debuffers, but when pairing stripper with strong debuffer kits. but the root of the evil still the speed stat.
3. yeah I bet no one will pick that now because hwayoung is out lol. XD
5. Imo artifacts usage is kinda obscured in battle(it's hard to know which one use what) so not many people notice the power level(except for GL I guess).
6. the 10% either player who rarely play pvp, new comers, or denials that think everything is okay.