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If you could Nerf a hero, who and how? [20]

Since SG is no longer in the mood to Nerf anyone, this mostly just to get opinions. 


Out of all the heroes, which one do you think has it too well in the current state of arena and how would you cut them down to size?


For me its Charles. He is THE most annoying debuffer of them all, due to the fact that he can debuff your entire team just from counters alone, as well as do some moderate to high damage with each chance.


Two options.

1:His s1 into s2 cannot be triggered by dual or counterattacks.

2.S2 can only dispel one buff.

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    2020.10.18 04:19 (UTC+0)

    arby

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    2020.10.18 04:22 (UTC+0)

    fcc

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    2020.10.18 06:09 (UTC+0)

    Yeah uncle Charles.  His S1 + S2 deal too much damage, 2.5 multiplier without colddown + atk down + dispel all buffs.

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    2020.10.18 08:58 (UTC+0)

    SSB counter once per turn

    Charles counter once per turn

    Basar remove the cr reduction effect

    ML surin remove the swift defense effect

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    2020.10.18 10:34 (UTC+0)

    Who: the RNG g o d

    How: I dont know. I just feel like he is always haunting me in arena, gvg and when enhancing gears

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    2020.10.18 11:18 (UTC+0)

    Arby: getting S3 reset on S3 and on S2 just makes him take 0 skill to use, removing the reset on revive would make him have a bit more skill expression than "spam S3 on CD"


    F.Lidica: was already the best in slot CR pusher before her buff. Has the same speed as SC Roozid (3 less than the fastest CR pusher if you take speed set into account), dispells 1 buff aoe, does an aoe attack without getting countered (enables C.Dom cleave without having to worry about counters, its one weakness) and still self pushes 100% CR to give someone full CD (sr8 up removing a unit from the fight). When you take into consideration all she does and compare her to CR pushers with similar speeds, she just seems OP, yet she was buffed to also give aoe skill null on S3. The buff should be reverted.


    ML Tywin: the stun chance is a bit too high in my opinion, I think it should be lowered while also increasing his slow chance to 100%.

    Artifacts shouldnt be able to proc on more then 2 people, 3 x abyssal is too much

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    2020.10.18 12:23 (UTC+0)

    Not a hero, but wanna nerf Arena Defense AI's RNG advantage.

    100% counter chance for first 2 hits, nearly 100% evasion chance for first 2 hits

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    2020.10.18 16:06 (UTC+0)

    F.Lidica, hi buff is insane and innecesary

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    2020.10.18 20:02 (UTC+0)

      Perhaps a nerf of artifacts? For example, the same Arbi, he is really dangerous when Alexa gives him the Greater atk buff, without this he is far from so terrible (besides, there are also counter units). The same applies to the SSB. Bruiser build with RSD. Without it, she couldn't do that much damage. Let me emphasize that I am not saying that you need to nerf these artifacts. But I say that some heroes are OP precisely because of the bundle with certain arts. It also makes it easier for developers. Less problems with refund...

     As for the heroes, I think you need to try to be objective, and not start from: it's hard for me against X hero, so he needs a nerf. I would say that nerf is needed by heroes like Basar. I argue why he is. In fact, all he needs is speed (it can be used with Tagahel for soulburn and not have a lot of eff), or tanky with immunity and some eff. Even at lvl 50 and 0 mola it is still very effective. And his S3 itself is too strong. 

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    2020.10.18 20:11 (UTC+0)

    Charles. His s1+s2 is the most broken thing in the game. 


    For the record, the highest single target multiplier skill in the game has Yufine - 2.0 up to 2.6 fully molad.


    Charles' s1+ s2 deals in total 3.25 at least(more dmg per buff). That means he outdmges Yufi most of the time with mechanic that has no cd and can be abused with Elbris by proccing it infinietely off turn. Oh, I almost forgot. As if dmg wasn't enough he also decreases att and fully strips so buffs don't even help you in the long run.


    Arby and SSB could use some nerfing too.


    My nerfs for them would be

    Charles: decreased base dmg of s1 by 10% and removing bonus dmg per buff from s2. Maybe also decreasing s2 proc by 5%.

    Arby- removing bonus dmg from full focus

    SSB- decreasing s2 dmg by 25%

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    2020.10.18 21:29 (UTC+0)

    foR mE itS chArlEs , your fcking bronze hardstuck arent you?


    Theres SSB, ARBY, VIOLET, SANCHO BOB, FALLEN CECI, CRAYON


    AND YOU WANT TO NERF CHARLES? ****

    **** **** **** **** **** **** LMAO???? LMAO???


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    2020.10.19 07:45 (UTC+0)
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    2020.10.19 18:56 (UTC+0)

    Dizzy


    I would remove the damages of her S3


    I like her but also...I don't like her 

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