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Thoughts on outdated 5* heroes overtaken by 3* heroes [16]

  • Krawser
  • 2020.05.18 23:30 (UTC+0)
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So I recently started playing more frequently again and decided to W12 and 13 for the first time since it was released. 

I had a +15 Luna , the first-ever pity I ever did (on her rerun), and was stoked to try her! After all, she is both functionally AND thematically a Wyvern killer lol. 


(You can skip the techy stuff for my main point at the end)


My initial team was:

Angelica in front, 26k hp, 1.3k defProof of Valor

Luna  with draco plate, 3.5k atk.

Dizzy  with 235 spd

Alexa   Lv50  with +24 DDJ 


I lost to W12 manual ... Realised he got a crap ton of resistance, switched Luna's gear to Atk / Hit set and beat it.

Went to 13, got destroyed. Couldn't auto W12 either, Angie would get killed or barrier wouldn't break and he'd wipe.


So after many trial and error, I got a fully F2P team working that easily beat 13 on manual, and had 95% success on W12 auto.

Angelica , except now she got prophetic candlestick and main stat speed boots (+40 spd in favor of -4k hp)

Alexa , same ****

Taranor Guard with recent event artifact giving (2 or 3%?) Dual attack chance to everyone

Yuna   with 244 speed, using +6 infinity basket for that dual attack chance lul



Now, my point to you guys and Smilegate is this:


Luna is one of, if not, my favorite thematic hero. She is sexy, looks badass, is the first hero I pitied, and to top it off, the first-ever limited hero I believe. Kind of a poster child for E7. She is built (both figuratively and aesthetically) to kill Wyvern. 

I mean, she wears the literal scales of wyverns (or maybe dragons) as armor !!!! 

  1. 100% def break? Check
  2. Passive to boost base stats? Check
  3. Hard-hitting S1? Check
  4. Unique artifact (draco plate) which boosts damage even more? Check
  5. Outmatched and beaten by a 3 * hero at Wyvern? ...... Check

Maybe she needs a buff? What do you guys think about her and other 5 * (or even 4 *) heroes in a similar position? One of the things I absolutely love about this game is how you can invest in and build even 3 * base heroes and make em viable in almost all PvE and even some PvP content. But to have 5 * heroes fall soo short sometimes makes me feel underwhelmed and deflated for having put so much into them ...


Personally, I'd change Soulburn on S3 to ignore eff res and reduce it's CD by 1, and increase the chance of proccing the 2x and 3x S1 attacks as a QoL update.

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  • images
    2020.05.19 00:56 (UTC+0)

    BEST"we want more diversity and harder content SG!"

    "w...what do you mean I can't continue using my Luna in wyvern forever?"

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    2020.05.19 13:17 (UTC+0)

    BESTSTOVE96464583Luna is outdated and wasted mola investment just make a recall to stop these pro luna and anti luna fkers. 


    mola>3star heroes


    Buff and EE waste of time for devs since alexa and ** do the trick better focus on other ares like gw worldboss balance patch etc. After that bring back the luna crap.

  • images
    2020.05.18 23:57 (UTC+0)

    I can full auto W11 with my Luna. Didn't change her gear - I need to - just changed her artifact. W12 and 13 hurt you if you are overly focused on DPS. Even so, chances are your W12 problem is that Angelica isn't fast enough. She's probably not getting enough chances to heal herself. 


    12 and 13 are specifically designed to negate the automatic use of Luna and Kise. You need more balance of debuff and DPS. Alexa's greatest utility is that she applies poison as a part of her kit. Nothing has ever changed about these two characters. Alexa was not made stronger. W12 and 13 were just made such that she became more useful there. 

  • images
    2020.05.19 00:56 (UTC+0)

    "we want more diversity and harder content SG!"

    "w...what do you mean I can't continue using my Luna in wyvern forever?"

  • images
    2020.05.19 01:19 (UTC+0)

    pop quiz op, where else is alexa good? the answer is NOWHERE. she is used 0% OF THE TIME IN PVP. she is USELESS outside of w13. So a niche 3* hero only good in ONE STAGE all of a sudden means luna needs buff when she still great in lots of other place too and is pvp oneshot machine? makes no sense. why do u no have problem with lorina too? a.mont best healer but 3* and you have no problem either?


    ur post means NOTHING. u honest think all 3 and 4* should be garbage compared to 5 and thats sad for you and the game.

  • images
    2020.05.19 02:11 (UTC+0)

    Put DDJ on Luna and Dizzy as well. Drop any speed on your Luna for more damage (you didn't tell us what her cdmg is btw) and put Idol's cheer on Angelica.

  • images
    2020.05.19 02:28 (UTC+0)

    i suggest this comp for w13 feat Luna

    GPurgiss - Proof of Valor (sandbag)

    Furious - Song of Star (Critrate boost and primary def break)

    Karin - Torn Sleeve (secondary def break & debuffer)

    Luna - just use S1, give her gear with high atck and critdmg, crit rate should around 50, Karin devotion skill can help to make it lower


    i understand you, fellow heir

    I love Luna too, but for W13 Alexa is still is better option, at least for me



  • images
    2020.05.19 02:56 (UTC+0)

    Currently best option for Whyvern 13 is Alexa with baikens artifact, SSB with Elphets artifact, Teranor Gaurd with Joker and a tank or Angelica.

  • images
    2020.05.19 03:02 (UTC+0)

    My thoughts are that over time 5* are going be powered up. Right now they are bringing 3* near or above 5* characters to establish a base line for future content difficulty. 5* and 4* have something unique like exclusive artifacts which 3* do not. So 5* in future will probably be the only characters you can increase to 7*. That's just what I'm assuming based on other gotcha games.

  • images
    2020.05.19 03:39 (UTC+0)

    Instead of buff her for PVE.  I hope they buff or EE her for PVP and let's Alexa shine in W13.

  • images
    2020.05.19 04:15 (UTC+0)

    Chloe is super cool on W12 and W13

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    2020.05.19 05:11 (UTC+0)

    Sigret is also awesome in W13.

    My auto team is her, TG, SSB, Angelica.

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