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"My" Nerfs/fix/changes to the most "debated" heros [11]

So alot of people want these specific heros nerfed, but not much input to what needes to change in depth, so I decided to put my take on it.

*Note - these are nerds or changes to the heros without killing them off, keeping their image...Except for one.


First off is  Universal changes: 

No AoE skill should have a, "ignore eff ressit" soulburn, and therefore will be changed to, "increase effectiveness".

Only Single targeting skills can have the original soulburn effect.


Artifacts that gain an effect by the damage dealt will not activate on "Skill Null,", Invincible,  or any future skill/or buff that prevents damage being taken.


Charles: 

Hs s1 nto s2 activation can only occur once per action a turn, meaning  he can only trigger the effect once per dual attack & once per counterattack  until his next turn.


Seaside Baellona: 

S2 counterattack will trigger only once per hero' turn.

She will not fire multiple s2 procs unless she herself get an actual turn, focus will still increase even after she triggers it initially.


Arbiter Vildred: 

Remove blind debuff from s2 and/or gains only 3 focus from "Dark Contract" but any focus gain before the revive carriy over.

This way their is a more defined reason to building him either speedy msg or bruiser dmg as he will need to get an attack  or two in befor he triggers the revive.


Basar: 

He already lost the "ignore eff resist" soulburn from the universal change so he will need to actually be built now (No unit should be Op/Broken with a loaded s3, being a RGB unit with multi banners, and needing no actual good gear except for speed and a book...what went on in SG head, idk).

His s2 needs to lose on debuff, so buff block is the only option that does not completely change is initial use.


Martial Artists Ken: 

Issues solved with the universal artifact changes.


These are most of the heros that have too much going for them with little or no counter play (speed or gear is not a counter...just a "check")


If people have any other ideas and/or hero to discuss, let em RIP, all thoughts are good consideration...as long as it doesn't change the hero or severely cripple them.

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    2020.03.25 21:15 (UTC+0)

    this game broken bro

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    2020.03.25 23:45 (UTC+0)

    I'm surprised to find myself liking these actually. Althoguh I was thinking about removing Charles' double chance of activating s2 if target is debuffed. People never use his s2 because s1 will always trigger his s2 anyway.


    As for A Vil , remove Hit debuff if focus isn't full and decrease dmg enhance from 45% to 30%(like 95% aoe skills in the game do)


    SSB is problematic due to the amount of debuffs and dmg she has. I'd decrease her s2 dmg, it has freaking 0.8 base multiplier and it can be spammed 24/7 without any effort or taking a turn.

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    2020.03.26 07:38 (UTC+0)

    They kill this game again, in the past they nelf ml  ARMIN  , ml ARAMINTHA  and Baai with the reason they too op .

    Then come the next update they buff daddy BASAR to an unexplainable level.
    Can anyone explain to me what this company is thinking?
    Play this game make me stress so much

  • 2020.03.26 09:38 (UTC+0)

    Why m I not surprised that Zienn likes this post. CP009, just look for people that can't find counter plays and rush asking for nerfs that ruin the game. I have never had trouble with SSB parties in GW or PvP. Counters are easily Charles, Yufine, Baiken, ML Zerato and even Vivian. If this game had 0 nerfs and just buffs since launch, we would have had better character mechanics and more meta breaking units. Nerfing characters only satisfies the brain dead. I'm against all nerfs, no matter how op the character is, this just gives me incentive to come up with a way to take it out.

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    2020.03.26 23:15 (UTC+0)

    @CP009 Were you even playing back then to speak as if C Armin didn't deserve nerf? Do you realize that F Ceci was considered weak at first and only became more desirable to use after C Armin was nerfed? Because C Armin was 10 times better than F Ceci. 

    SB Ara and SBS equipped with Etica could keep you perma debuffed due to their crazy turn circulation and not long cds. It's hard to take posts like tehse seriously whne ou don't even recognize what was wrong with these units in the first place. C Armin would still be number 1 used knight if she wasn't nerfed and a lot harder to dea with than F Ceci.


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    2020.03.26 23:42 (UTC+0)

    @HeroPrime You're the most unintelligent indvidual I've encountered on this forum.

    -It took you 10+ posts to grasp how Effect Resistance works. I can't understand how low your IQ must be that you still couldn't grasp it after watching the Epic7 101 and many replies I wrote you, even going as far as to make up nonsense such as "ML Ara's stun is guaranteed ER doesn't matter stun always lands!" and it wouldn't get to your head that ALL skills in the game need to pass ER check.

    -You said that both ML Ara and Sage Baal were nerfed because people didn't use immunity(against Sage Baal LOL)

    -You also said that they're both slow basically equating ML Ara's 106 spd with Sage Baal's 115 spd. The difference is even greater with spd set.


    All that being said, you're a cretin who has no clue how the game works or even how units work. And where the hell is your post about ER that I dared you to post? Should I post it for you? I'll call it the Hall of Shame ft. HeroPrime "15%ER is a myth".

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    2020.03.26 23:51 (UTC+0)

    "I'm against all nerfs, no matter how op the character is"

    If this isn't an epitome of stupidity I don't know what is. Again, coming from a guy who probably still doesn't understand how ER works, claims Sage Baal is slow and that we he was nerfed because people didn't use immunity. C Armin would still be dominating in the arena being 10 times better than F Ceci because she had a +30 Proof of Valor for the entire team.

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    작성자 2020.03.27 05:11 (UTC+0)

    @HeroPrime I personally do not have a huge problem facing these heros, I even have them. .However, I am not biased enough to say they are not overly oppressive at what they do.
    When faced against them, you must have key selected heros or a specific comp just to tackle one of em, but If you are using any ot fthese "debated" heros, you just stop actually thinking, click button and win 80% of the time (worst when you win when you dont press anything} .As much as you think to believe, nerfs HAVE to happen, and this stays true in any and all games with multiplayer, hence the "balance".
    -next comment continue-

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    작성자 2020.03.27 05:25 (UTC+0)

    I've played alot of gachas and rpgs (love me my rpgs) and even in other genres like fighting game, Nerfs need to happen, buffs follow suit. 
    People are smart (I believe) itsnot hard to foresee the outcome/problems of Buff only, never nerf. One is powercreep, which would only shift one of the absolute top meta units out to replace or just simply add to that list, changing nothing but adding one more problem. The other is, if they were to somehow buff all (not possible btw) heros by a huge margain close to the "debated" heros...then nothing still changes, because the top meta units STILL do exactly what they have been doing, making it no point to even change it up, they do their job great regardless of who else is faced against them, only those that are "stronger" will change that
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    작성자 2020.03.27 05:31 (UTC+0)

    And if most things become stronger then them in buffs, that basically an overall nerf them these "debated" heros, but with extra work & steps.
    Nerfing saves a whole lot of time and focuses on the small group with adjustments that still works with or against the rest of the cast, without making a huge web of woes with what buffs broke what kit in a list of 100+ heros (if it was buff only)

  • 2020.03.28 19:15 (UTC+0)

    @Zienne, just a monkey with an agenda flinging ***** matter to see what sticks. Guy shows a video of Krau procing innate resistance to counter the argument that debuffs without a percentage have a 100% chance of landing. Goes around talking about other people IQ, while his mental capacity is that of a water bug. This guy was definitely one of those players that tried to use immunity set  to counter Sages dispell, when it didn't work he came here and cried for nerfs. Counter plays? Don't ask Ziene what they are because he thinks best way to counter ML Zerato is by going in with debuffers only to come out with a wide open rectum. So what does he do? Naturally what Ziene does best. Ask for nerfs. Ziene has this mentality that everything should go the way he expects things to go, and when they don't he throws a temper tantrum. By the way Ziene, no need to project your congenital thyroid deficiency on to others. A monkey with congenital thyroid deficiency is a perfect description of Ziene.

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