Cerise Skill Change Notice

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[GM] Cerise Skill Change Notice [206]

OFFICIAL Dominiel
2020.02.25 11:00 (UTC+0)
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Hello this is GM Dominiel.

We would like to inform our Heirs about balance adjustments to Cerise, a Hero whose information was previously showcased in the video titled [Epic Seven] New Hero Preview – Cerise on YouTube.

■ Cerise

Luminous Explosion (Before)	Luminous Explosion (After)
Explodes a magical sphere, stunning for 1 turn, before decreasing Combat Readiness by 30%. Increases Combat Readiness of the caster by 50%.	Explodes a magical sphere, stunning for 1 turn, before increasing the caster's Combat Readiness by 50%.
Frost Storm (Before)	Frost Storm (After)
Attacks all enemies with a raging frost storm, decreasing buff durations by 1 turn, with a 75% (Max. 100%) chance each to restrict and decrease Speed for 2 turns.	Attacks all enemies with a raging frost storm, decreasing buff durations by 1 turn, before a 75% (Max. 100%) chance each to decrease Speed and restrict for 2 turns.
Frost Storm (Awakened) (Before)	Frost Storm (Awakened) (After)
Attacks all enemies with a raging frost storm, decreasing buff durations by 1 turn, with a 75% (Max. 100%) chance each to restrict and decrease Speed for 2 turns. Grants the caster invincibility for 1 turn.	Attacks all enemies with a raging frost storm, decreasing buff durations by 1 turn, before a 75% (Max. 100%) chance each to decrease Speed and restrict for 2 turns. Grants the caster invincibility for 1 turn.

■ Restrict (New Debuff Effect)

Restrict	Restrict
The target will receive no Combat Readiness increase effects other than that provided by their Speed stat.	The target will receive no Combat Readiness increase/decrease effects other than those provided by their Speed stat.

We will first inform our Heirs of changes that will be made to Luminous Explosion. Through the use of her new debuff, Restrict, Cerise was designed as an effective countermeasure against enemies with skills that can increase Combat Readiness. However, we have confirmed that, after additional decreases to Combat Readiness were inflicted upon enemy Heroes affected with the Restrict debuff, it became very hard for those Heroes to have a turn to act. Therefore, we have removed the Combat Readiness decrease effect on this skill and changed Restrict so that Heroes who are Restricted cannot be affected by further skills that decrease/increase their Combat Readiness.

The next change that occurred is the order in which debuffs will be applied for the skill, Frost Storm. In the preview video that we released, Frost Storm inflicts Restrict first, followed by the decrease Speed debuff. However, due to this, Cerise was found to be ineffective against enemies which can remove debuffs. Therefore, we have decided to change the order in which these two debuffs are applied so that she can be better equipped against enemies with the ability to dispel debuffs.

We apologize for any inconvenience that may occur due to the differences in our preview video from the changes listed here. We will continue to try our best in order to provide a better gaming environment for all of our Heirs.

Thank you.

一騎當千萬骨灰[STOVE85874042]
2020.02.25 11:52 (UTC+0)
BESTHey SG, can you further change it so that Cerise s3 targets her own teammates instead of opponents? With that change to Restrict debuff I feel like it is a good defense strategy against the cancerous Basar nowadays :D
GuiltySparks[STOVE84341408]
2020.02.25 11:46 (UTC+0)
BEST we were not even expecting anything but you still found a way to let us down.
epic7#zuwye8[YoshinoX]
2020.02.25 11:16 (UTC+0)
BESTsick nerf but as well nerf arbiter vildred at the same time while the fire gets on going
DeltaFrame[The4sakend]
2020.02.25 11:07 (UTC+0)
kinda expected the nerf on her S2
imagine those people who said *limited heroes will never get any nerfs*
- epic7#lmil6y[Sorryushan]
  2020.02.25 14:30 (UTC+0)
  STOVE96464583Again potato boy....
- epic7#88gw2o[Zienn]
  2020.02.25 15:19 (UTC+0)
  STOVE96464583Do you realize that Restrict can get resisted and cleansed like any other debuff and CR decrease could come in handy?
  Or that not everyone considers themself brainless AI using s3>s2 in every single fight regardless of situation?
  No matter how you put it her unique debuff got nerfed and she lost another on s2. That's litterally nerf.
epic7#hy1f6z[ReverseBlackk]
2020.02.25 11:11 (UTC+0)
After nerfing s2, now you guys make the one with "Restrict" are immune to attack bar decrease!? Is this a debuff or a buff!? Why are you doing this SG?
- Dalphy[STOVE108844872]
  2020.03.02 01:11 (UTC+0)
  MenZKungTheory craft is cheap. Could counter that team with *** tier A.Vil.
  
  #theorycraft
- epic7#bjlebn[MenZKung]
  2020.03.02 01:49 (UTC+0)
  STOVE108844872Nope, only if A.Vil get G.Atk buff by basket or you have enough luck to resisted many times.
  
  What the point to make dev less profit by released bad limited hero? Dev know that restrict will ruined arena if they not change it. I admit that current her isn't that good but I don't think they should let Restrict can decrease readiness as well. They need to balance/buff with other ways. Something like add S3 - no elemental disadvantage, get 50% readiness after used, add some team buff after S3 or others.
epic7#1elolm[lPenDrag0nl]
2020.02.25 11:13 (UTC+0)
Does this mean that anyone with Restrict cant get CR push or pull
- Amato[STOVE96464583]
  2020.02.25 11:37 (UTC+0)
  Yes that's what the post literally says if you read it.
- TheDJ14[STOVE89720637]
  2020.02.26 06:37 (UTC+0)
  STOVE96464583Way to be condescending, *******
Dreamterror[wartoad]
2020.02.25 11:15 (UTC+0)
Good job for adjusting her before we get another cancer in pvp.

Also, I hope Loenna will be a slow hero that can help other heroes in some way to deal with speed pusher/decrease meta. It boring to have speed stat dominate other stats in pvp for so long.
- 126037876
  2020.02.25 15:45 (UTC+0)
  Izzy7We have a dictionary of many words, and people still get those words wrong.. so....
- RapNeo
  2020.02.25 16:21 (UTC+0)
  Izzy7Someday she will playable character :'(
epic7#szbr5q[STOVE84280811]
2020.02.25 11:16 (UTC+0)
Man, your balancing team needs some changes.
- RealKirito[STOVE121568457]
  2020.02.25 20:49 (UTC+0)
  *your balancing team needs balancing..
epic7#zuwye8[YoshinoX]
2020.02.25 11:16 (UTC+0)
sick nerf but as well nerf arbiter vildred at the same time while the fire gets on going
RedLikeRoses[STOVE84087480]
2020.02.25 11:18 (UTC+0)
Well well, maybe we can have your opinions on how balanced SSB/AV/Charles are as well since you are able to promptly nerf units like Cerise/Alencia in this manner.
- Amato[STOVE96464583]
  2020.02.25 15:38 (UTC+0)
  ZiennYes, he is.
  
  Unfortunately, this shouldn't be a surprise considering the history of these boards.
- epic7#lmil6y[Sorryushan]
  2020.02.25 15:57 (UTC+0)
  STOVE96464583They nerf s2, but "well well", you didn't read it did you? Potato boy...."They removed it because it literally cannot work anymore with the way they changed restrict" if u turn off auto battle you can use s2 before s3, also you can use it after cleans or after restrict duration is over... Potato boy.....
TheMarsVolta[STOVE90975904]
2020.02.25 11:23 (UTC+0)
Cerise COUNTERS OWN TEAM's CR pushers fire lidica's s1 and s3, tenebria's push, specter tenebria s3, lilias s3, dizzy s2, basar s3, arby s1

SAD

Don't change Restrict's effect. Because if you bring Cerise against a team that lacks CR booster, than you are effectively countering your own units that cr push enemies back

Some nerf is okay, but this is too much… She went from OP to NICHE. pls keep her in-between…
The nerf to s2 is understandable, but the nerf to Restrict is too much!
- 84157895
  2020.02.26 00:49 (UTC+0)
  STOVE83979400then that means you want to make her s2 like dizzy/lilias again? do you even know how op it is if u make her s2 stay the same? stun + decrease CR?
  
  then ask this to yourself whats the point of using s2 with decrease CR w/ Restrict, its useless right?
  what if something like this happen. Cerise 1 v 1. She will just play you with s2 decrease CR + stun + her increase CR. then s3. that's like dizzy/lilias again
  
  also, ask this to urself also. what if u pair Cerise + Lilias or Basar abyssal?
  easy lock hero
- epic7#o6yyk6[STOVE83979400]
  2020.02.26 07:05 (UTC+0)
  SeyrenIt has a 3 turn cooldown. And you are also assuming her s3 actually lands the slow speed debuff or the stun.
  There's an awful lot of 'ifs' in there.
  
  Also, ml lidica and lidica can do that to you already.
  Alots can lap and rip you alot. A coli can rnl-lap you like no tomorrow. Since they changed restrict, using lilias with cerise wouldn't even be useful. So that doesn't change or make the s2 change any better or justifiable. Same goes for basar. So, restrict change would have been fine if that was all it was.
  
  One more thing, if her multipliers are low, then it's not like she'll be doing much dmg with high speed gear anyway.
SilverPleb[gamingaccnr1]
2020.02.25 11:24 (UTC+0)
She's useless, idk what big brain you have over there, but we definitely do NOT NEED another ICE Limited Unit. Change her ELEMENT.
- 108343069
  2020.02.25 13:31 (UTC+0)
  STOVE86542441I don't think she's useless, i never stated that actually (i'm not the same person as the one who commented she's useless up there ^^, despite the same pfp)
- BeonEU[STOVE86542441]
  2020.02.25 13:38 (UTC+0)
  foxsin097I got bamboozled. xD
87455937
2020.02.25 11:45 (UTC+0)
nice. now change her from limited hero to non-limited.
- 87455937
  2020.02.25 13:09 (UTC+0)
  STOVE96464583her kit is now too niche and doesn't fit to most comps in the game. changing the debuff is fine but it affects her so much that it seems she turned from OP to just decent or straight up meh to people. she can't fit in teams with lilias, basar, dizzy, tenebae, spec tenebae and many more cr decrease heroes while the enemy can freely decrease your cr even if they have the restrict debuff.
- 103883593
  2020.02.25 14:08 (UTC+0)
  LalallennWow you have a so VALID POINT about that. They're restricted and yet they can debuff and decrease your CR.
  
  You have the first hit and they have 2nd turn as Dizzy or Basar then.. you're still out. LOL.
  
  PS : LOL Amato, he's a nuisance.
GuiltySparks[STOVE84341408]
2020.02.25 11:46 (UTC+0)
we were not even expecting anything but you still found a way to let us down.
- GuiltySparks[STOVE84341408]
  2020.02.26 07:08 (UTC+0)
  STOVE103636186Emm... In that case I'll be happy to see this nerf, not complaining, dumb lol
- GuiltySparks[STOVE84341408]
  2020.02.26 07:08 (UTC+0)
  STOVE84935595Don't hate the player, hate the white Knight... I mean the game lol
Aierethi[STOVE103697573]
2020.02.25 11:48 (UTC+0)
nerf basar he have 108 speed without any speed awake
一騎當千萬骨灰[STOVE85874042]
2020.02.25 11:52 (UTC+0)
Hey SG, can you further change it so that Cerise s3 targets her own teammates instead of opponents? With that change to Restrict debuff I feel like it is a good defense strategy against the cancerous Basar nowadays :D
- 133543721
  2020.02.25 17:00 (UTC+0)
  I don’t know if this is a joke/sarcasm or a serious suggestion but I absolutely support this idea. Or add another effect to resrict to not being able to decrease enemy’s CR either. She’s definitely not worth pulling as she is now as a usable hero but just as a ‘limited’ hero to add to the collection
- NatK[STOVE124741738]
  2020.02.26 01:24 (UTC+0)
  Cast s3 on champion zerato and let him return the restrict
103883593
2020.02.25 11:52 (UTC+0)
So Dizzy + Basar combo to decrease CR is not compatible with Cerise in the team?
Since Cerise will make them immune to CR changes.

Her sprite and design is not gorgeous nor appealing, and now as well her spells.

WTF?
- STOVE125294505
  2020.02.26 10:17 (UTC+0)
  STOVE96464583Nope, he meant "this LIMITED hero is now worse than non limited ones and the new debuff looks more like a buff for the enemy team, so it'll be a problem even for future heroes that use it"
- 103883593
  2020.02.27 13:37 (UTC+0)
  STOVE125294505Thanks for your detailed message, you're right!
92942625
2020.02.25 11:55 (UTC+0)
From op to useless... she can’t be used if you rely on cr pusher or cr decrease. You can counter her with a cleanse or if you don’t rely on ce push... no one will use her...
can you remove her limited statut please? I don’t see the point of having a very niche character as limited.
- 103883593
  2020.02.25 14:03 (UTC+0)
  This. Mediocre limited hero. Ugly and bad spells. Yuck.
  So many people are angry about this... maybe because we were hyped about her spell then it was taken away.
epic7#irvhqr[Marty2323]
2020.02.25 12:01 (UTC+0)
And now nerf arbiter vildred. Fcc should be good enough, imo she doesnt really need a nerf tbh.