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New waifu concept (dark soul weaver) [5]

 

Hero concept to counter Basar, CONVERSION - dispell a team driven debuff and convert it to random team buff for the S3. S1 could be given a chance to decrease effectiveness. and S2 can be a healing called TRANCE (heal all allies proportional to caster's health, healing increases more proportional to the number of debuffs on the hero)

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    2020.02.11 07:56 (UTC+0)

    If you really want unit that can counter Basar.  First this unit shouldn't be Light/Dark or Water.  ML are hard to get and water is disadvantage in elemental.  And I have to tell you the hero with similar skill will be release in EP2, Doctor Ray.  His skill will be change from boss form but the concept maybe the same or similar.


    If you really want hero who can counter Basar, the skills shouldbe 

    S1 - chance to transfer debuff or clean ally debuff when attack

    S2 (Passive) - Decrease enemy "decrease combat readiness" effect by 50%

    S3 - Skill similar to your suggestion ,S3 ML Basar or Groomyrain upgrade version.



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    2020.02.11 10:07 (UTC+0)

    "Hero concept to counter basar"


    You mean lilias? 

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    2020.02.11 11:22 (UTC+0)

    @Amato  Right, right because the definition of a counter is to rely on something as lousy as 50% chance Basar misses. It's not like elements with disadvantage can hit you several times in a row with rng wills it.



    The problem with Basar is not his s3 debuff but rather his 30% CR pushback. So debuffe being converted into buffs wouldn't accomplish much because he'd give his team turn advantage anyway. Which is why I use G Purrgis.

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    2020.02.11 15:09 (UTC+0)

    @Zienn

    "It's not like elements with disadvantage can hit you several times in a row with rng wills it. "

    That is the entire game right down to the innate 15% chance to resist, and is not a valid point. You could apply that reasoning to anything.

    Lilias' kit is by far the most anti-basar thing you can have on one hero in this game right now because she's the only unit that not only brings a 50% chance to completely ruin his day upfront, but a full cleanse and 25% CR reduction of her own right back even if he does get value from the S3. Will she always go next? No. Is it better than most options? Hell yes.

    Everything after turn 1 is also completely in lilias' favour when it comes to that matchup.

    Mine is 224spd with 21k hp and immunity and she has won way more matches against basar than she's lost.

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    2020.02.11 18:29 (UTC+0)

    @Amato


    Are you really equating 50% with 15%? 50/50 is not by any stretch of imagination mathematically close to 85% which is far more reliable than 50%. If you need to rely on 50/50 chance that your enemy misses it is not a counter. 


    "You could apply that reasoning to anything."

    No, you can't ignore 35% difference in numbers and call it the same thing.


    "Lilias' kit is by far the most anti-basar thing you can have on one hero in this game right now, Everything after turn 1 is also completely in lilias' favour when it comes to that matchup."

    Hardly because the rest of your team was pushed by 30% and Lilias doesn't strip immunity buffs like Basar does. Hence why I mentioned G Purrgis. 

    There's no true Basar counter at the moment. Counter has to be reliable. If a unit you use has only 50% to success then it's not an actual counter.

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