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Nerf Arbiter Vildred passive already [23]

His S2 is too good, you can't argue against this. Don't nerf Dreamblade or Alexa's Basket because those are not the problem. The problem is his passive that pushes him up BY 100%, not TO 100%.

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    2019.11.19 18:13 (UTC+0)

    BESTOR bring tanky teams, def buff, shields, Extinction skill or any of the many 2 hit heros that can kill him immediately after he revives. There are ways to counter him I personally use Angelica and her shields tanks most of his damage.


    We had this discussion before he's fine as is.

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    2019.11.19 18:25 (UTC+0)

    BESTSorry no, learn to counter or GT FO :/

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    2019.11.19 18:51 (UTC+0)

    BESTPeople have indeed replied to what you have posted, regardless if its the reply you are looking for, a reply is still a reply. As for Arbiter Vildred, I can understand how annoying he can be, however, there is a counter to him. One can bring a tanky team, a unit that can 2 shot kill him, a unit that can provide buffs for the team, etc. Majority, if not every unit can be countered against, it's up to the individual on how they can do that.

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    2019.11.19 18:07 (UTC+0)

    It is frustrating that he is guaranteed the next attack after his resurrection. A significant CR push would have been acceptable, but not this.

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    작성자 2019.11.19 18:10 (UTC+0)

    [STOVE84412941] True. If he's going to get pushed up, then at least it needs to be 30% to 50%.

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    2019.11.19 18:13 (UTC+0)

    OR bring tanky teams, def buff, shields, Extinction skill or any of the many 2 hit heros that can kill him immediately after he revives. There are ways to counter him I personally use Angelica and her shields tanks most of his damage.


    We had this discussion before he's fine as is.

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    작성자 2019.11.19 18:22 (UTC+0)

    Avi55 You must be sarcastic, you have to do so much just to kill ONE unit on the enemy team. If you have to jump through so many hoops just to kill one person out of four then he's overpowered. Don't give me that "He's fine as is", Extinction is only used by two units and 2 turn units like Baiken or Blood Blade Karin need much better gear to get through Fallen Ceci shielding with Aurius or Crimson Armin with Aurius. Tanking through is one option but you're out of your mind if you think that the other three or two units in Arena or PvP don't exist to make your life miserable.


    His third skill is fine, I don't care about that. What matters is his passive which makes you jump through so many hoops in order to nullify only a single unit out of four or three.

    EDIT: It's also no secret that JP players all rerolled for Arbiter Vildred and every ranking in JPs arena is filled with teams including him. If he's "fine as is" then why is he a necessity to even step onto the PvP scene of one server?

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    2019.11.19 18:25 (UTC+0)

    Sorry no, learn to counter or GT FO :/

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    작성자 2019.11.19 18:29 (UTC+0)

    Aisana I'm truly awed by your lack of argument to my case. Now if you were to kindly take your own advice it would be much appreciated, I made this post to argue the validity of my statement and so far only one has bothered to reply properly.

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    2019.11.19 18:51 (UTC+0)

    People have indeed replied to what you have posted, regardless if its the reply you are looking for, a reply is still a reply. As for Arbiter Vildred, I can understand how annoying he can be, however, there is a counter to him. One can bring a tanky team, a unit that can 2 shot kill him, a unit that can provide buffs for the team, etc. Majority, if not every unit can be countered against, it's up to the individual on how they can do that.

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    2019.11.19 18:52 (UTC+0)

    That piece of garbage of a unit should nerfed, he's ruining the entire game, just look at the JP server arena.

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    작성자 2019.11.19 19:05 (UTC+0)

    Ikukotsu I never said that he can't be countered, I said that you have to go through so much just to counter him and only him. His passive is too overpowered, much like how Sage Baal's S2 was overpowered but much worse.


    CrimsonCain He's just one part of the problem. The lack of content and ability to challenge old content with new units due to gear unequip costs and the difficulty to find a new piece of usable gear has caused players to turn their focus on unit skills instead. "If it's not brokenly overpowered, then it's not usable" seems to be the common opinion of long-time players (ie. me and my acquaintances) because the only thing left for them to do is PvP.

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    2019.11.19 19:24 (UTC+0)

    A character having counters does not mean they aren't overpowered.

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    2019.11.19 19:44 (UTC+0)

    I don't have all of the best answers to A.Vildred but I do have a few that haven't been mentioned although to be fair like everything they are situational. Sometimes I use teams that aim to trigger his Death when they have full Damage negating effects up not just the usual barrier Defence Buff, etc... but the rare effects (Immortality, Invulnerability & Skill Negation)
    But I do appreciate the comment that he is easily in the top 3 ML 5's and as such is Fairly OP.

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    2019.11.19 20:55 (UTC+0)

    I think you are giving too much credit to a.vildred he it's an easy kill with my j.kise,tywin combo. The real problem its ml Ken...if I don't get the 

    brake on him I'm dead. Witch it's like 20% of the times

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    2019.11.20 01:10 (UTC+0)

    You fear ML Ken I hate going up against Violet, mainly because I have ice heavy PvP heros. But I am not asking for him to get nerfed because there are way to shut them down, even if I dont have or implement them.


    Same for A.vildred, I think you need to reevaluate how you approach teams with him in it or just plain avoid him. Just like I do with Green ML Ken (Violet).

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    2019.11.20 01:52 (UTC+0)

    CR boost works in your advantage actually. Thanks to that A Vil is forced to choose between Basket and Portrait because he can't have anyone to give him attack buff.

    His dmg on the other hand... it's huge and it was buffed with Imprint Concentration by giving him attack instead of effectiveness.


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    2019.11.20 03:18 (UTC+0)

    I kinda agree with you, I usually use a cleave team with BBK. And my BBK can cleave heavy comp even without def break most of the time (with attack buff of course)

    But the problem is MLDB Avil. This forces me to gamble on the artifact between Portrait or Oath Key just to habdle 1 unit. And if MLDB Avil is paired with Fat Cat even Oath Key's gonna fail you most of the time LOL.

    I have used a turtle comp as well but the problem with turtle comp is the timing for the protection is pretty hard. More so if the enemy is using a stripper (ex. Counter dizzy with violin) so,  yeah. I kinda agree with you.

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    2019.11.20 03:22 (UTC+0)

    Ive been running melissa against him. Her s2 does plenty of damage to him!

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