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A Ravi - no buff needed - Baby's guide to building complex units [14]

To absolutely all the people clambering on and on AND ON about A Ravi Buff you have bellow a foolproof guide on how to build her:

A Ravi is a complex character to build that requires some thinking beyond DUUUR damage build sustain build
 
1- Yes her Skill scales off HP, but that's not all you should focus on.
2- HER PASSIVE buffs her crit chance... WHY DO YOU THINK THAT IS? Why would the devs buff a stat that's useless for a tank. Oh because she's not a tank she's a bruiser! Unless you build her with 80%-ish crit chance HER DAMAGE will be useless
3- Have a gear in ATT% or Flat
4- Since we know she's going to crit 99% of the time give her a crit damage necklace because WHY would you NOT take advantage of that crit chance buff
5- If you're still not criting run her on Hell Cutter
6- Invest the mola in her S3 and S1

And if she doesn't destroy teams THEN you've earned the right to ask for a buff.

Personally, I don't care for an A Ravi buff or not, what I do care is that SuperCreative came up with a very interesting concept for a complex hero, that will never happen again because people are too dumb to think beyond the SIMPLEST concept builds ever.

So, in other words, a buff to A Ravi isn't just a buff to A Ravi, it's an admission that HEROS that require complex build strategies will no longer exist in the game, because people don't understand how to build anything beyond speed/crit, full sustain and skill scaling.

So next time, when you think a hero isn't good, take a second to think, maybe you're not building them properly

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    2019.10.05 13:29 (UTC+0)

    BESTLooking at your post seems like you made this just out of annoyance on how people keep crying over her buff rather than A. Ravi problem herself


    I also feel the same, at this point those "buff post" became so annoying that i dont bother read them anymore (same can be said to spezlord cult for the past 3 months but eh whatever) 


    Anyway what you suggest is just straight out odd, you call out people that build her on a mere speed/crit but the build you suggest is no different


    If we talk about offense and just focus to make her straight up dps, she will be nothing but a mediocre fire ken,  he has the same hp scalling mechanic, his vigor increase his atk stat and defense, he has speed buff and can stun + def break enemy


    Now dmg wise, ml ravi s3 mod is awful, its 1.3 + 20% max hp while fire ken is 1.5 + 30% max health, thats huge different. "But fire ken need to collect focus while ml ravi doesnt", are you seriously gonna use ml ravi s3 on turn 1 just like those dumb AI? Let that sink in

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    2019.10.05 12:41 (UTC+0)

    The only thing I'd probably disagree with you is that heroes with interesting concepts won't happen again. At least I hope so, as I like building heroes that requires you to actually think to utilize well. Great guide there btw :)

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    2019.10.05 12:42 (UTC+0)

    All you said is true but people just want to slap some random gear they have (which is usually as you said Spd/Crit) on her and call it a day.

    Have fought a couple Apoc Ravis on my way up to Challenger I some were good some were bad from what i have seen i wouldn't say she needs a buff.

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    2019.10.05 13:04 (UTC+0)

    To be honest, I never intend to build A.Ravi as a Bruiser, I don't want her damage either, she's my bare meat shield.

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    2019.10.05 13:29 (UTC+0)

    Looking at your post seems like you made this just out of annoyance on how people keep crying over her buff rather than A. Ravi problem herself


    I also feel the same, at this point those "buff post" became so annoying that i dont bother read them anymore (same can be said to spezlord cult for the past 3 months but eh whatever) 


    Anyway what you suggest is just straight out odd, you call out people that build her on a mere speed/crit but the build you suggest is no different


    If we talk about offense and just focus to make her straight up dps, she will be nothing but a mediocre fire ken,  he has the same hp scalling mechanic, his vigor increase his atk stat and defense, he has speed buff and can stun + def break enemy


    Now dmg wise, ml ravi s3 mod is awful, its 1.3 + 20% max hp while fire ken is 1.5 + 30% max health, thats huge different. "But fire ken need to collect focus while ml ravi doesnt", are you seriously gonna use ml ravi s3 on turn 1 just like those dumb AI? Let that sink in

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    2019.10.05 13:32 (UTC+0)

    Aye.

    Bruiser ML Ravi just dies to cleave tbh. Main reason people keep asking for buff is because most people build her the way you suggested. She does mediocre damage with that setup while there's more better options for dps builds.

    I'd say she can't even kill Montmo with that.

    Only ML Ravi I ever had problems with are the ones build like DCorvus/ML Ken.

    Extremely high resist, tanky and on counter set. Hard to kill her with that setup. 

    Extremely hard to def break due to high eff resist > Never runs out of fighting spirit due to counter set > Keeps healing herself because she never runs out of fighting spirit and her S1 from counterattacks.

    She won't kill you, but you'll die to thunder (arena) or time out (guild war) .

    Dcorvus teams can still deal with her of course. But not everyone have that luxury.

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    2019.10.05 13:34 (UTC+0)

    Now what ml ravi do better than fire ken is on defense comp, AI is dumb but thats nothing new, the fact that she is a wall can be good enough to stall the hell out of the enemy, thats her strong point, nobody expect her to be one shotter as a defense unit (we do can make that happen with speed tunned comp but rarely work) and nobody has problem on her on that regard


    And as the guy said above, ML ravi is quite good on defense and the best set for her would be counter set because she is tanky to give more chance to counter + life steal + more focus, but here is the catch, people that actually lost to ml ravi is actually lost to counter rng proc, this make her so much reliant on counter, if she didnt counter at all she will lost, try build her different way and people can just ignore her existence as a defense unit and kill her last with no issue (especially if the offender has thing like ruele and carmin that will take aggro from ravi) 

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    2019.10.05 14:01 (UTC+0)

    Here is mine. I've fully enhanced her S1, S2 & S3
    I would like to think mine is build very well. Besides being a meat shield she doesn't do anything special. Any other bruiser with the same kind of gear would be better.


    S1: This is fine, especially when you SB and crit it deals nice damage for a bruiser like her.

    S2: The heal component is fine and works very well with the counter set, which allows her to counter and retain fighting spirit. The crit component however doesn't make a lot of sense and I think replacing it with something like armor penetration based on fighting spirit would be better. This way she'll have more presence and can't just be ignored.

    S3: This is the weakest link. It doesn't do a lot of damage and it is hard to pull of. Even if she managed to kill someone with it and bring an ally back, they are brought back with JUST 10% hp and 1 skill nullifier. Depending on how far into the match you are, the timed arena damage can even kill the brought back ally =/

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    2019.10.05 15:03 (UTC+0)

    Its pathetic to see much people babycry for buff when they do not know how to build her and to the extend that they need someone like u to literally tell them to the face on how to use aravi because they just couldnt think. While i do not really agree with ur build suggestion i think it works too. Im unsure why would people always compare her with ken, Ken has so much offensive tools in his kit to be a dps bruiser while aravi is supposed to be a zombie bruiser. Just look at her s2 and thats the uniqueness of her. Aravi self sustain is insane without needing any healer and counter set make it even better. She can survive hit and s3 enemy squishy dps to turn the tide or just stall and let enemy die to lightning

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    2019.10.05 21:35 (UTC+0)

    I appreciate the effort in this guide. The only suggestion is that babies are still too smart, too high level. Guides need to be aimed at elder jellyfish as the audience.

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    2019.10.07 01:09 (UTC+0)

    let i give you a shocking news! crit/ crit dmg scale on all type of characters other than Corvus and Gunther! basically my any of my tank using hp/crit build can do better than A.Ravi

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    2019.10.08 14:19 (UTC+0)

    She is primairly used on my end to carry fragile teams through normal raid to kill 2 bosses per trip. Zeno her Champion Zerato and Vivian (who all, except zeno, came out around the same time "oddly" enough) add up to 52 morale. You need speed to recover her fighting spirit; the damage is sufficient with defense break. Alternatively, take Blaze Dingo for 47 morale instead, to heal revived allies. If you havent been farming ancient coins with her, then im sorry for your loss. Long treks with fragile teams is her niche. Auto is very possible with her through nixid 2 & 3, all the way down to -49 morale. Once you hit -50, retry & camp. Bag 250 coins & repeat.


    Edit: Per-Strike basis, the guy who posted above me has far better damage stats. But honestly ive learned its better to spread stats out instead of overkill any on a particular character like this (3000 more hp? Or 40 speed for example.40 speed on her 120ish without speed main is far less diminishing in returns.)


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    2019.10.11 13:19 (UTC+0)

    Please use A Ravi on your arena defense teams, easy 3vs4 win for me...


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    2019.10.11 23:13 (UTC+0)

    Thank you for making thos post. I agree taht her s3 is abit lacking because it doesn't do anything if it doesn't kill but I can't take seriously people who put Sigurd on her sometimes even with life steal set.

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    2019.10.21 09:53 (UTC+0)

    before they ask for specimen sez buff, now a ravi, tomorrow they will ask for krau buff if enemy killed by skill 3, his cooldown reset. lol

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