Kayron E2+ Is Literally Pay 2 Lose
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Kayron E2+ Is Literally Pay 2 Lose [10]

There is a MASSIVE issue. In gameplay footage we saw, the boss gains 1 fortitude on hit received, and Kayron E2 (every 2 futility exhaust do 100% dmg to all enemies) counts as a hit (it consumes vulnerable, even counterattacking any benefit his E6 gives, etc.). This means that Kayron E2+ will potentially be giving the boss +6 fortitude (-120% ratio) minimum every turn. While this doesn't matter for his big Black-Hole hit, it will SEVERELY nerf his potential to kill hands quickly with his other cards. This means that if Kayron is used in this Great Rift, there will likely have an advantage if you are E1 since you will be able to kill the hands much easier. This means that in a Kayron meta, people with E2+ (like myself) quite literally are 'Pay 2 Lose'.

I can only hope that Smilegate sees this ahead of time and acts accordingly, or it gets their attention early in the great rift and they are able to fix it so people who have Ego manifestations on Kayron aren't objectively weaker than those who don't.

EDIT: Ego-toggling is the obvious fix, but any short-term fix for Kayron specifically would be appreciated since he might be quite good in this Great-Rift (and has a lot of synergy with Tiphera)!

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Please add ego toggling feature

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My suggestion for easy solution for dev is to have boss not gain fortitude for this type of attack. The question is what kind of attack this Kayron's E2 is?


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Yes it HUGE issue with his E2, probably it is need to rework. My Kayron is E1 and i happy not got another duplicate for ruin him with E2 :/

I want this problem solved

I really hope they rework his E2. It’s so dumb how it interferes with so many things.

I think a better long term fix would be just to make his E2 to be a fix/unique dmg so it doesn't consume vulnerable etc... I have him at E4 and this sucks.

I really like Kayron and being a player from E7 I was ecstatic about the crossover. So I heavily invested in both him and Renoa on my account only to discover that both of these characters so far in their lifetime keep getting piled on with disadvantages like this and wouldn't you know it I have Kayron exactly at this E2 that nullifies him as a contender in this battle. 

Please add ego toggling feature

Add Ego toggle please

Please add toggle on/off or just make fixed damages not consuming buffs/debuffs.


My suggestion for easy solution for dev is to have boss not gain fortitude for this type of attack. The question is what kind of attack this Kayron's E2 is?


Yes it HUGE issue with his E2, probably it is need to rework. My Kayron is E1 and i happy not got another duplicate for ruin him with E2 :/

Please add ego toggling feature

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