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Aleo, it doesn't make sense for you to go "Ive lost every 50/50" since everybanner carryover from the last one, soo... youre supposed to at least get 2 characters at every 4 releases, + you may be lucky and get more, and im talking with the absurd hypothesis that youll doing ONLY 70 pulls/banner 

Haru: won 50/50 ( got her arnd 30 )

Yuki: lost 50/50 ( got Renoa dupe, then got her arnd 20 pulls )

Chizuru: lost 50/50, had to pitty her, then won 50/50 and dumped an omega code to get E2

Sereniel: won her 50/50  and then won again, used my 400 thingies to get E2 ( but even if i lost... id still get her using the same amount of pulls ) + Pittied Peko

Narja: Lost 50/50, then got her arnd 120 pulls total

Nine: Pittied her ( Won 50/50 ) then pittied Alcea

still have 20K+ crystals

You all complain with a full belly, like spoiled children saying "Mommy, look, my friend got a new toy and I didn't";

 If you do all the events, even as F2P players, you'll be able to get most of the characters. Currently, each banner allows you to farm about 1.5 pity (90-110 pulls); For every 4 characters (1 from the pre-season and 3 from the season), you get 3 more, if you don't shoot the partner, plus 1 Omega Code to guarantee you a dupe, and you can still get 3 other dupes, that can be quite valuable at this game; 

My experience with the banners as a first month player: +

@DaBoi

I never really count the income pull, but is it really that bad ?

Right now, I'm playing this game F2P but I already did 410 pulls on rateup banner, 380 pulls on standard, and 40 pulls on beginner. And I still have 320 limited pulls & 20 standard pulls.

If we are talking about getting 5★ every new banner, it should be enough since there are 6 new banners up to date. Of course, this doesn't considered guaranteed pull for the rateup itself.

But in general I think the income is enough to get at least 1  5★ every rateup banner or at the very least once per month. And with how you could get past rateup character on standard, it's even better chance at getting more variety of characters you missed (after all I got Haru and Chizuru from standard even though I don't pull on Haru banner 😅)

Of course some of the pull income come from event, compensation, or something else idk. Not a pure income from the game itself but I still think it is generous enough.

I've never played a gacha game that was as generous with crystals and pulls as this game. And for many of them, the characters will not move to the standard banner, so you're even more unlikely to ever get them. Yes, it's still a gacha and that also means that you'll not be able to pull every character as a f2p long-term and sure, not having a 50-50 would be nice.

That being said I personally think it's very unlikely that people have NOT been able to pull for every character (without ego or partners) up until this point just with the free currency and pulls the game gave you. I'm NOT a day 1 player and am f2p. 

I've gotten 210 amplified anchors as well as 72000 crystals, so a total of 660 amplified anchors and we had 6 characters to pull. So there's almost no chance to not have gotten them all even with the worst luck possible unless you spent on other things. So yes, it's a gacha, but maybe we can "manage" our currencies better in a way to secure we get the characters we really want.

Oh, I know it all too well because I play other game being F2P and sometime low spender if I feel like commit to the game.

Mostly at launch I almost always lose my 50-50 that I feel like it wasn't 50-50 but more like 20-80 😅

But over time the rates would be going close to 50-50. And it is very rare that I could get the character on low pity, usually only got them on soft/hard pity. The game I have worst luck on would be HSR & Reverse1999.

But in the end of all that, I still have lots of variety of them without any resources to actually build them all and using them. It is more of a luxury to have lots of character honestly.

If you've played many gacha games before, then you should know that the gacha system that CZN has is some of the good ones.

Compare them to the like of wuwa, fgo, hsr, zzz, Uma Musume, arknight Enfield, you'd be thankful with what you have here. E7 may not have 5050 but they do have higher ceiling guarantee pity, so that's more of a sidegrade. You could say there are some better gacha systems, but you can't ignore most popular gacha games don't and have it worse.

Asking them to make it guarantee for the first 70 pulls really kill their business. The 5 star guarantee pity is only at 70, really low, but there's 5050 so people may fail and may end up spending their money. Else, it would've make them too generous and barely get money from us.

Farming anchors, don't remember it being hard. For new players? Didn't had that issue as a day 1, while I did at arknight Enfield. Especially since we need to do a lot of different stuff there unlike in CZN, with character banners only last 2 weeks lol

Even the dolphins struggle with bad luck on this piece of sh*t system. Crazy no one talk about this game very low pull income per patch?

Hey Vyan,

I think you missed my point a little. If you are going for a certain character in whatever spending range you are, doesn't matter - you should be rewarded for putting time and effort in. 
Even if you go for one in every banner, it should be certain you get it, imagine a f2p, he might be aiming for this one and just doesn't get it. What do you think, how does it feel, ya know?
I played many gachas before, I know that this is an all-existing strategy (they want to make money aswell obv.) but if you dont raise your concerns, no one will. But I also had better pity-systems before, so I really dislike this one.
Otherwise, I get ur point!
cheers

I highly doubt they will change the system since it appears they copy this system by taking a look at other game.

Also in my experience playing other game with similar gacha system as F2P & low spender, it is better to aim for every other banner or true limited. Don't aim for every consecutive banner. They will give you better character over time, there's no need to collect every new shiny character released.