Faint Memory counter miscounting Conversion

I converted a starting card from the starting Fate and have given it a neutral epiphany.

My total Faint count should be 20 (+10 for convert, +10 epiphany)

Ingame counter says I am at 40? I am guessing it counted the convert and the remove in the calc (+10 for convert, +20 remove starter card +10 epiphany)

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@RootSamaritan converting basic card to mutant sample is the best way.

But getting a neutral card that you want while also removing a basic card? Converting basic card is still the best.

Through converting = 1 neutral card & remove basic card only cost 30 points.
Getting neutral card with removing basic card cost 40 points.

@Vesp87 That's because mutant sample has "remove" tag. Normal neutral cards don't have that.

It's not that the game isn't consistent bro, it just that this game requires you to learn a lot of things to be able to understand it. Youtube videos really helped me

I think Mutant sample is still good for removal. I got it last night and for some reason it added 0 faint memory instead of +10 or +30....

I still think the in game counter can be inconsistent. how can some converts add +30 and some add +0

So we DON'T want to convert basic cards to neutrals now? I thought that was the best way to reduce Save Data value?

I'm just glad we have this in the game now, so it's easier to understand, why my own calculations were so wrong before :D

ahh thanks for the video, I thought conversion was just a flat +10 and did not incur +20 for adding a neutral.

So essentially converting to remove a base will actually cost more than just removing the base. the removal cost increases is less but you are incurring the convert and gain neutral cost...

Remove 1 base card cost +20

Convert a base into neutral is +30 then removal cost (depeniding on how many removes)

1x Remove base is +20
2x Remove base is +50

3x Remove base is +100

4x Remove base is +170

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1x Convert & Remove +30 (+30 convert, +0 remove)

2x Convert & Remove +70 (+60 convert, +10 remove)

3x Convert & Remove +130 (+90 convert, +40 remove)

4x Convert & Remove +210 (+120 convert, +90 remove)

@Vesp87 huh, you sure we're not supposed to get the basic card penalty?
I never complained cause I thought that's just how it works. I've always thought remove tag is needed

Take a look at WG's explanation here: (3:52)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yfKDBo_D_Cc

yes Neutral epiphany, The convert (neutral obtained via conversion thus only +10 instead of +20) & Neutral Epiphany should have been a total of 20 faint memory but I am getting 40.

natural epiphany? you mean neutral card?
If yes, I previously got 30 lol.

I thought it was +10 (convert) & +20 (remove basic card) only

Edit:
I think im correct regarding this. The epiphany added a +10 point, thus 40 points.